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now, 30 years. dick durbin, wanted that. i will sign onto that, a democrat. we don't have the time. we have a dick durbin sound bite. dick durbin said that. he was in favor of that. >> i can't stand it. we're losing dick durbin sound bite. megyn: time is short. the point dick durbin couldn't sell it. >> dick durbin couldn't sell peanut butter to children. megyn: was raising retirement age one year, 20 or 30 years from now. >> here's the deal. the simpson-bowles commission was only a starter. it wasn't a solution. the reality is this government is too big, growing too fast, trying to do too much for too many. a child, a 12-year-old with a basic understanding in this country that would equate to, a second grade math comprehension could understand this isn't working. and we have people playing such games, such silly games in washington. and do we go over the cliff? right now i would say the odds are very high that we do because these people have no appreciation for their responsibilities. either to themselves, their constituents or to the country. megyn: lou dobbs, always interesting talk
the road to tout his tax plan. i will speak with lobbyist grover norquist and senator dick durbin about what hangs in the balance next. >>> a small town governor stood up to violence and vowed to keep fighting, but now her dead body has been found. her story when "ac 360" continues. >>> if you department get enough of campaign 2012, stay tuned. we learn that the president will push plan to raise taxes on income above a quarter million dollars a year. he'll be speaking friday at a factory in pennsylvania. some republicans are hinting to limiting deductions even if it means breaking the pledge that the lobbyist grover norquist has been lobbying against for years. joining us now to talk about it all, grover norquist, president of americans for tax reform. grover, thanks very much for coming in. >> good to be with you. >> the trend we're seeing now from members of congress questioning or pushing back on the pledge. we've seen it before to a certain degree, but we're seeing a lot more of it i sense right now. there's a sense this movement is gaining some steam. is this just more of the same,
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dick durbin was over at the senator for american progress yesterday and he made it very, very clear that when the word entitlement reform is used or the phrase, there's one thing it should not include. here's senator durbin. >> i think we should take social security off the table for the current fiscal cliff and deficit discussion but be very honest about what we're going to achieve in the near term. i think we should create the equivalent of a simpson bowles commission for social security and give them eight months to a year, a directive to come up with a plan to buy 75 years of solvency for social security. >> bill: social security is really a different issue isn't it? >> absolutely. it is. i would agree with senator durbin absolutely. i'll give you a reform in medicare i think democrats would support. and that is looking at prescription drugs. and making it more competitive. >> bill: amen. >> or really crackening down on the fraud that takes place through the medical devices which is not with individuals c
on the table. they don't want to raise tax rates. democrats are saying like dick durbin on abc this week says let's put everything on the table including entitlement reform but then in the next moment dick durbin says he doesn't want to change medicare. take a listen. >> we have got to make sure that there is seemless coverage of affordable health insurance for every american. my concern about raising that medicare retirement age is there will be gaps in coverage. this has been the problem so far. republicans don't want to give in on taxes they say they will will, they will make some concessions but they haven't yet. democrats say they are willing to work and make concessions on entitlement reform but sketchy on the details. both sides know what they need to do to find common ground but they haven't done it yet. >> ed henry at the white house. thanks. president obama has chosen a new head of the securities and exchange regulation. who heads wall street. her name is elise walter. she has been a member of the commission since president george w. bush appointed her in 2008. she is set now to rep
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the company. some entilement reform is okay with illinois democratic senator dig durbin, but thinks that social security should be left alone. >> social security does not add one penny to our debt. not a penny. it's a separate funded operation and we can do things and i believe we should, smaller things played out long-term that give it solvency. >> and congressman peter king says nobody will get all they want, but if president reagan and speaker o'neill could get a deal, president obama and speaker boehner should as well. >> harris: let's hope that's true. thank you. right now, a child missing, city on edge and volunteers going door-to-door to try to find young dylan. also, no longer a mysteries, but an official cause. we now know why a strip club blew up and more than 40 buildings and homes including a day care center were heavily damaged. debris for blocks. and we'll check with the firefighters injured trying to save lives. and can it get any bigger? the powerball lottery mightier and millions of americans buying tickets. are you playing? stay close. with verizon. hurry in this s
the country that mobilize to try and stop cuts. the number two senate democrat, dick durbin, says he'd be open to look at entitlements, but not part of the fiscal cliff talks. here is the senate majority leader's view. >> at the meeting we had that i mentioned with president and the four leaders, president obama said that social security is not part of what is what we're going to do in this. i agree with him. and there are things that i personally believe there are things that we can do with entitlements that don't hurt beneficiaries. >> but if you have each side starting to take things off the table, it makes you wonder if at some point if gets harder to make a deal. shep. >> shepard: mike emmanuel on capitol hill. the white house and president obama will be making their case to regular americans this week. republican leaders say he should be negotiating, not campaigning. he's not the only politician planning a fiscal cliff road trip. we'll go to the white house and the fox report coming up in a bit. first, hours ago, more than 200,000 people crowded into the central square in cairo to call f
will run out of money in 12 years. that is scary. >> though as the negotiations continue, durbin does suggest that obamacare is on the table. >> the only perfect law i know was carried down mountain on a stone tablet by senator moses. everyone else has define their very best to write a good law and realizes oaf time changes have to be made. i'm open to whatever, you know, elements we need to reconsider there. but i think we have the right starting point. >> much of the anxiety in washington seems to be over not knowing the details of the president and speaker boehner's negotiations. lawmakers on both sides suggest it could be a good thing. they are talking to each other and not leaking. >> mike emanuel live on the hill. thank you. >> bret: he is not campaigning for re-election, but president obama is back on the political stump to round up support for his economic plan to get off the fiscal cliff. chief washington correspondent james rosen tells us that has the congressional republicans feeling left out. >> ultimately, the leader is the president of the united states. >> this presiden
with dick durbin who came on the show because eric said, okay, we'll do deals on taxes, but you brought up capital gains tax, no. carried interest, no. raising the actual marginal rates, no, we don't want to do that yet when he left we got calls from democrats saying does he really want to make a deal? >> i got two yesterday that -- >> i got e-mails from democrats going wow, he sounds like he wants to make a deal. one senator said did he really mean what he said? considering that he said nothing, yeah, i guess so but it was the tone then yesterday dick durbin came on and we had to basically stop asking about medicare about three or four minutes in because it was nonsensical talking about creating new programs. but this is a guy that also supporting simpson bowles and let us know like eric, we'll make a deal and figure it out. >> both sides at various times tells you something about recent history. you think about where republicans were a year and a half ago, where their attitude was, no, we will not discuss revenues, not one penny, ever, ever, ever so for cantor to say, of course, we'll di
insurance. so we need to find ways to reserve these programs. >> senator durbin is suggesting the debate over the entitlement programs should be waged after the new year once the fiscal cliff issue has been settled. >>> six minutes past the hour, new storms rolling into the northwest this morning. and that could cause dangerous flooding. alexandra steele is live in atlanta for us. what's going on? >> hey, good morning to you guys. we've got one storm that's gone and one storm that's a massive storm incoming. so let's start with this, all you guys in new york city had snow, for sure, but right now we certainly don't. this has all moved offshore. this was just the rain, but what was left behind? actually black ice there this morning. places like new jersey, six inches of snow. chester, new jersey, five. you can see sunbury, pennsylvania, three. 2 1/2 in mill brooke. the hudson valley and portions of connecticut are seeing black ice as a factor. take it slow, especially the elevated surfaces with temperatures so cold. story number one. story number two, a mammoth storm, this is the water va
are giving lip service to reforming some of our entitlements like medicare. senator dick durbin was on abc and suggested that. the minute you push for specifics, raising the retirement age on medicare, he starts to flounder. i don't know we're moving towards any kind of deal yet. on politics, simplicity sells. a tax pledge is very simple. it communicates with your voters directly. here's the deal. republicans want low taxes for two reasons. they believe it's better for economic growth. we lost the election. we're going to lose that battle. also because they believe it will force spending restraints. i'm not sure that's true. voters need to feel the consequences of your decisions. if you choose higher spending you might just have to pay for it with higher taxes. sooner or later that burden might have to be the spending restraints. >> i think voters are already feeling the consequences, though, aren't they, jason? >> yeah. voters are already feeling the consequences. i also think the voters said something in 2012. look, we are tired of rigidity in washington. tired of people holding on to 20
. i think we're done. >> after durbin speoke yesterda, if you're going to get a blueprint, he doesn't want entitlements be part of it for next year. >> it's the 1,000-point solution. maybe that will change their mind. durbin said no. norquist is saying no tax increase. what else is there? am i missing something? what am i missing? blankfe >> stallen made a lot of sense. mass murderer about you doesn't mean he didn't make sense. >> blankfein, kent, mayer, roberts of comcast. is there anything these guys can say to change their tune? to get people -- >> we're just past thanksgiving. let's give it a little time. things can change. we've seen lots of back and forth. everybody is establishing their negotiating position. there's still a negotiation to come in some way. i'll take the optimistic view. >> maybe that's where they are starting from. >> a reset button? >> we have yet to get in there and see whether in fact there can be the ability to knock heads around and really figure something out here from the executive, the chief executive, that being the president and the leaders of both
. >> dick durbin says when you're talking about entitlement reform or cuts in spending for medicare, medicaid for example, he says that's too complicated now. listen to what he said this morning. >> when it comes to medicare, we know that it's going to run out of money in 12 years. whatever changes we want to make should be thoughtful changes not made in the heat of the fiscal cliff. >> can you defer medicare for example -- medicare reform until after you get a deal on the fiscal cliff? >> well, if we do that, wolf, i think what you have to do is also defer the issue of taxes. i think you extend tax rates some time into the foreseeable future whether that's six months or a year and allow us to go through the process where we can deal with entitlement reform and tax reform in regular order. i don't see republicans supporting something up here that deals with taxes that doesn't have entitlement reform incorporated into that. so i think right now we're a little bit of a standoff, but the way to solve this would be of course to extend the existing tax rates which is by the way something
. and the numbers are staggering. as dick durbin pointed out recently when lyndon johnson was majority leader of the senate democratic majority leader of the senate. for six years, there was one filibuster. one filibuster. the last six years under republican leadership, there have been 380 filibusters in the senate. they filibuster everything including -- one of the most outrageous examples, republicans in the senate filibustered the james -- september 11th health and compensation act which would have provided healthcare for the heroes the first responders of september 11th. republicans filibustered that and prevented it from coming to a vote in the senate. so it doesn't matter good or bad if the democrat was for it, republicans filibustered it. and they did so by -- it was sort of like a -- a virtual filibuster. it is no longer the day when they bring in the cots and they make them actually speak. they just threaten to filibuster and that's all they have to do and it is just as effective and -- effectively blocks a measure at al
continue today. we are going to be covering the discussion with dick durbin, the assistant majority leader, democrat of illinois at any event today. live coverage on c-span, 11:30, c-span and, . if you miss it, go to our video library. on the front page of the financial times, stepping down from the sec. mary schaepiro is stepping down after nearly four years in charge of the top stock market regulator. bill, maryland, on our line for independents. what are your thoughts? caller: i think we have already gone over it a long time ago. we are like a family or small business that is bringing in $200,000 each year. their borrowing in other $100,000 each year. and then you hear these people talking about, we are going to raise the taxes on the rich. what is that going to do? bring in other a thousand dollars and. it is insane. these politicians have screwed us, screwed our children. they just keep reelecting the same people. in the wall street journal this morning -- they write this, why $16 trillion only hint of the true united states debt. the actual liabilities of the federal government inclu
time ago. >> that's all i need to know. >>> tomorrow, tim pawlenty, illinois senator dick durbin and singer dionne warwick. >> great show. meanwhile, cnn "newsroom" with carol costello begins right now. >>> tear gas in cairo near the u.s. embassy as the fight for democracy goes on. >> face to face. susan rice and john mccain, the man who wanted watergate style hearings, meet. and only cnn catches up with mccain before the big meeting. >> what do you have to learn today from miss rice? >> whatever ambassador rice wants to tell me. she's the one who asked for the meeting. i didn't. >> wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall? >>> spyfall, real-life bond movie. yasser arafat's body was exhumed. was the palestinian leader po h poisoned by israeli spies? >>> plus this. >> you said walden is in trouble. >> i'm the trouble walden has been in, repeatedly. >> he calls it filth, the half in "two and a half men" begs you not to watch his show. "newsroom" starts now. >>> good morning to you. thank you so much for being with us. i'm carol costello. we begin with a high stakes meeting just m
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